| Re: New Computer [message #276650 is a reply to message #276523] |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 18:08 |
multi core = crap and slow
single core = win
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We'll see that when your virus scanner is updating / scanning while you play a game...
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| Re: New Computer [message #276691 is a reply to message #276523] |
Thu, 02 August 2007 04:51 |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 18:08 |
multi core = crap and slow
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And you phail miserably.
Dualcore certainly has it advantages. Yes in single threaded applications it might be slower (if the megaherz are lower) but, since we don't work in dos any more and do things like multitasking, you'll benefit from a dualcore even if you're just running single threaded apps.
Everything *feels* faster, even in just plain old windows. Also, if one application hangs and uses 100% of 1 core, you can still run taskmanager etc to kill it, on a dual core. Try that on a single core and you'll fail, miserably again.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276700 is a reply to message #276279] |
Thu, 02 August 2007 06:38 |
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| Re: New Computer [message #276763 is a reply to message #276279] |
Thu, 02 August 2007 13:02 |
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Intel's Core 2 Duo has a faster architecture than the Athlon X2 (or FX), so it doesn't matter that AMD's CPU has a higher clock speed.
The Athlon 64 X2 6000+ runs at 3 GHz, but it's still slower than the 2.4 GHz E6600.
As much as you'd like to imagine that you know what you're talking about, troop, you don't. So shut up.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276767 is a reply to message #276632] |
Thu, 02 August 2007 13:25 |
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| DarkDemin wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 23:19 |
Well, nice to know the dumbasses have arrived. The next person that posts that single core proccesors are better is going to get kicked in the throat. In other news, I canceled my order for my 8800Ultra seeing as the 9800GTX is going to be the same price and 2x the power.
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Wait, you were planning to buy an Ultra?
Give me your wallet - you seem to enjoy wasting money (SEE: BENCHMARKS)
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| Re: New Computer [message #276778 is a reply to message #276279] |
Thu, 02 August 2007 14:01 |
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When dual-core technology first arose each core wasn't much faster than a single-core processor, but thats completely changed now as the technology improves and the cores are much faster. Granted that not very many programs take advantage of both cores yet, but that will change in a short while as well. I doubt you will find a single-core processor that is faster than a dual-core nowadays. Dual-core technology will be truly awesome when it is truly two cores. Right now it is two cores on the same die, though, AMD claims to have created a true dual-core processor, I would sure like to see that.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276871 is a reply to message #276279] |
Thu, 02 August 2007 19:59 |
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I agree. New games coming out are definitely taking advantage of both cores. Real time strategy games are a great example; [CORE-1: PLAYER-LOGIC][CORE-2: AI-LOGIC]. I believe Supreme Commander does this and from what I have heard it works well.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276908 is a reply to message #276778] |
Fri, 03 August 2007 02:44 |
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| Dave S. Anderson wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 23:01 |
When dual-core technology first arose each core wasn't much faster than a single-core processor, but thats completely changed now as the technology improves and the cores are much faster. Granted that not very many programs take advantage of both cores yet, but that will change in a short while as well. I doubt you will find a single-core processor that is faster than a dual-core nowadays. Dual-core technology will be truly awesome when it is truly two cores. Right now it is two cores on the same die, though, AMD claims to have created a true dual-core processor, I would sure like to see that.
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2 "cores" on 1 die is actually more efficient then 2 cores just connectect by the CPU package. both on 1 die means higher connnects, less latency, and the connects can run at higher speed thanks to the higher quality of the links. Also this enables shared cahce and shared memory controller, which is faster then having boths cores to talk to each other by FSB.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276952 is a reply to message #276279] |
Fri, 03 August 2007 10:00 |
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2 "cores" on 1 die is actually more efficient then 2 cores just connectect by the CPU package. both on 1 die means higher connnects, less latency, and the connects can run at higher speed thanks to the higher quality of the links. Also this enables shared cahce and shared memory controller, which is faster then having boths cores to talk to each other by FSB.
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And that is exactly why it is not a true dual-core processor. I would presume that true dual-core processors may have a slightly different purpose than your average dual-core processor.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276967 is a reply to message #276279] |
Fri, 03 August 2007 13:08 |
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Yes, but they will not be true dual-core processors until they have a each core on its own die. As I said in a previous post, AMD claims to have a true dual-core processor, but I have yet to see it.
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| Re: New Computer [message #276976 is a reply to message #276279] |
Fri, 03 August 2007 14:11 |
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After some much needed research it appears you're right. A true dual-core processor does indeed include two cores on the same die. Quad-core processors do have two dies though, each holding two cores.
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| Re: New Computer [message #277056 is a reply to message #276279] |
Sat, 04 August 2007 00:43 |
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Dual core is definitely useful..
Running games with normal fps while running fraps in the background, do anti-virus and so on.
A year ago people would say "Dual core is still useless because it it isn't supported by programs yet". Now dual-core is getting main stream and you don't hear them complaining anymore, they probably even own one there thereselfs.
Same is going on for Qaud core now really. You can get a Q6600 for a bit more then a Dual core. And in the future it will give benefit. (and maybe even now It depends on what your doing.)
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