| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254458 is a reply to message #254370] |
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Viking
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Silent Kane dose stuff all the time, he just never gives it to anyone but himself. Jonwil shares with everyone! 
QUOTES
"The Renegade community revolves around having something awesome, and not sharing it so you can be on top of the mountain." -Canadacdn
| Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 05:22 |
| Memphis wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 03:54 |
...fatally die to death...
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I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.
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Awesome l337 people= Icedog90, Blazea58, Canadacdn, Crimson, jonwil
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254469 is a reply to message #254370] |
Tue, 17 April 2007 19:48 |
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I haven't actually seen any of Sir_Kane's code for that bot or whatever it is (in fact I have none of Sir_Kane's code for anything anymore) but I do know he is a renegade engine expert and I have every reason to believe that that picture is genuine and not faked.
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254499 is a reply to message #254370] |
Wed, 18 April 2007 04:55 |
=HT=T-Bird
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SK, you just make yourself look like you have an IQ that is half of your real IQ whenever you get into these diatribes...
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254526 is a reply to message #254447] |
Wed, 18 April 2007 07:25 |
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| Silent Kane wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 19:29 |
Yeah, lets release netcode info/source so everyone can make new hacks/exploits!
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Are you still cheating or did you manage to brake away from your terrible urge?
lol
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254560 is a reply to message #254456] |
Wed, 18 April 2007 10:20 |
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| SeargentSarg wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 02:55 |
Silent Kane does allot of stuff in the behind scenes, he does allot for the community, and so does jonwill. They both do a damn lot, and you can't just say they are making stuff worse for us.
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Ermm falsh.
Only the work on the new RG, and from what I know, he doesnt even really like it. The rest of what he does are sidesteps and generally not ment to be released.
JW on the other hand doesn't need any kind of external motivation to work on scripts.dll and has generally no problem with sharing things. The stuff in bhs.dll is only closed source because it could to easily be used for far more annoying cheats then we have today.
| Jonty wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 08:34 |
| Silent Kane wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 19:28 |
You breaking enough stuff with your current shit, no need to touch netcode.
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At least jonwil doesn't behave like an arse half the time. 
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True.
| CarrierII wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 11:14 |
If you two would drop this vendetta we'd have Renegade II
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Doubt it, but it could be better then we have now.
| =HT=T-Bird wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 13:55 |
SK, you just make yourself look like you have an IQ that is half of your real IQ whenever you get into these diatribes...
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True, unfortunately.
| One Winged Angel wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 14:12 |
Stealtheye should know. What do you plan to do with this info on the netcode jonwil?
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True
| JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 16:25 |
| Silent Kane wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 19:29 |
Yeah, lets release netcode info/source so everyone can make new hacks/exploits!
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Are you still cheating or did you manage to brake away from your terrible urge?
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Even if SK still cheats, the cheating of other ppl would become far, far more worse then it is now.
| Jerad Gray wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 16:33 |
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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Mon, 05 March 2007 13:42]The mistakes in the original Renegade are clear. Bad netcode
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*Grins* for how much longer do you think this will be true.
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Well, I doubt JW will rewrite the whole netcode, as this is something that requires loads of time, and from what I know JW is rather busy already.
Also, this would not be compatible with "original" Renegade installs, as you would have a different netcode. From what I know BHS tries to avoid that at all times.
| Renx wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 18:38 |
| Viking wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 18:27 |
He should of shared it in the first place so whatever.
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Jonwil doesn't share BHS.dll source either, maybe you should bitch at him 
Oh wait, their NDAs prevent them from sharing that code, and for good reason.
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True.
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254568 is a reply to message #254372] |
Wed, 18 April 2007 12:03 |
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| Cat998 wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 16:20 |
I would recommend you to talk with Neku (alias TimeFX) about the renegade netcode. He has already reverse engineered many things in Renegade, and he has a pretty good knowledge in those things.
In the past his mod was using a second socket for the additional data he needs for his mod to let the server communicate with the client, but I think in his latest build he has changed that to use the renegade netcode for exchanging things with the clients.
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Using the default net code for my mod was the first try, but standard Renegade crashes very easily with netcode it doesn't know, so I used an own socket. This wasn't that good too and I made my mod using the standard Renegade socket in another way: Users with my mod will catch own netcode, users without the mod will ignore the packets.
The default net code is way too bad and insecure to use it...
| Silent Kane wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 20:28 |
You breaking enough stuff with your current shit, no need to touch netcode.
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Yes, we let hundreds of bugs, cheats and exploits open because we could cause some new...
Proud of your Renegade bot? I have one too, the netcode is not that difficult.
@bluethen:
NO-ONE should release ANYTHING about the netcode. It's so damn bugged and insecure that you'll no longer have fun playing Renegade when cheaters/exploiters know the code.
Yrr.
Creator of...
Resurrection, a Command & Conquer: Renegade Modification
LevelRedit, a .mix to .lvl converter
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254589 is a reply to message #254570] |
Wed, 18 April 2007 13:38 |
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| Silent Kane wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 21:23 |
That screenshot shows like 1%- of what it can actually do.
And your old fix for the Remote console exploit was very lol.
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 13:20 |
Only the work on the new RG, and from what I know, he doesnt even really like it. The rest of what he does are sidesteps and generally not ment to be released.
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Wrong.
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What part was wrong, the not like RG part? Or the release part. As I would be very intrested in what you would be releasing.
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254682 is a reply to message #254560] |
Thu, 19 April 2007 07:24 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 11:20 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 16:33 |
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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Mon, 05 March 2007 13:42]The mistakes in the original Renegade are clear. Bad netcode
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*Grins* for how much longer do you think this will be true.
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Well, I doubt JW will rewrite the whole netcode, as this is something that requires loads of time, and from what I know JW is rather busy already.
Also, this would not be compatible with "original" Renegade installs, as you would have a different netcode. From what I know BHS tries to avoid that at all times.
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True, but you have to to get a patch to play Renegade, they could make it so the scripts.dll and stuff were installed with the patch. Then everyone could still play.
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| Re: looking for info on renegade netcode [message #254691 is a reply to message #254370] |
Thu, 19 April 2007 07:49 |
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I have no plans to rewrite any part of the netcode. My interest is in touching as little of it as I need to in order to do what I want. (like the nickname exploit/server full stuff)
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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