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Lol, AmunRa is wasting his time making plugins for NR, when he should be for BR.

Don't waste your time with NR. Ask danpaul88 to give you access to the "forum"


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Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235798 is a reply to message #235791] Mon, 25 December 2006 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we all have our views and opinions, your giving yours. and im giving mine.

BrenBot: this is a very well programmed bot, it is very stable. it has many features, most of which are of good use to most server owners. but, BrenBot lacks custimization. i found it very difficult to get mIRC working. and i think it should find the renrem port from the given FDS path. the only downside to BrenBot i think it's commands are not custimizable. with exeption to rules etc...

NightRegulater: this is a very powerfull bot. because it has been written in a low level language it is more suseptible to bug, memory leaks and crashes. while perl is powerful, it is interpreted. giving chance for crashes to be caught and the program can comtinue running. Nr is nicly custimizable, with the Gui it is very user freindly. but, although i don't want lee to take offence Wink i think this is pretty unprofessional. bad spelling etc... the other downside is the GUI, this uses significant amount of memory. and servers with limited RAM will suffer using it. NR beta 6.0 will have a lot of bug fixes etc.

Smart Bot: im not probably allowed an opinion on this, but im gunna give one anyway. i think this bot has the potental to become something great. at the moment, it is having unexpected crashes. i would say this bot sucks atm...because...it does!
im completly reprogramming it from scratch, to go with the new project. the new one is faster and more reliable than before.
as a side note, the any Sbot betas will have a LOG feature, although this uses about 1Mb per day in a txt file. if there are any crashes i can release a fix within hours. as it will tell me the exact line of the crash and what caused it plus all the states of the variables.

i would rate BR: a 7/10
i would rate NR 6/10
and SB: 2/10

amunra has done a good job on the plugin, i havn't tested but if it workes there is a nice amount of VB there.
Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235836 is a reply to message #235791] Mon, 25 December 2006 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Mon, 25 December 2006 20:21

Lol, AmunRa is wasting his time making plugins for NR, when he should be for BR.

Don't waste your time with NR. Ask danpaul88 to give you access to the "forum"

I'v4 had acceesss to the forum
Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235851 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Mon, 25 December 2006 19:21

Lol, AmunRa is wasting his time making plugins for NR, when he should be for BR.

Don't waste your time with NR. Ask danpaul88 to give you access to the "forum"



lol @ Teh-Pwnerer

EDIT: http://www.aohost.co.uk/NRBR.jpg

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Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235854 is a reply to message #235851] Tue, 26 December 2006 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*cough*
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Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235855 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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meh.... leave it running 4 awhile - anyways im not up 4 an arguement TP just annoys me lol
Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235861 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You and your bot annoys me. And I am being honest, why would anyone waste their time with NR. It used to be good, around the 2.x versions, now it is all fucked up with the colors, the gay scripts.ddl advertisements, the bot ads, and now the damn irc certified crap, which you have to pay a license for if you want your irc to make your bot even go faster if it lags. Personally, its all bullshit with the ads.

Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235862 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not to the mention the shit lag everyone gets now from your hosting.

Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235863 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nightma, remove every single advertisement on NR, including on the GUI interface, and you will see 50% more users using it.

Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235864 is a reply to message #235861] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 09:37

You and your bot annoys me. And I am being honest, why would anyone waste their time with NR. It used to be good, around the 2.x versions, now it is all fucked up with the colors, the gay scripts.ddl advertisements, the bot ads, and now the damn irc certified crap, which you have to pay a license for if you want your irc to make your bot even go faster if it lags. Personally, its all bullshit with the ads.


the certified IRC crap is a problem ALL bots have, run it on ANY IRC server you like... Unreal IRCd limits the output of a client which makes ANY bot lag

i just made a script that stops it lagging on certain IRCd's - it is nothing new - running on a non-certified IRCd is exactly the same as running old versions of NR on any IRC

those colours were sommn i put in for a test to see how it runs - of course it dousnt look good, therefore itll be removed in next version

bot ads? one small line added to the end of autorotate... which is gonna be removed completely soon wow big deal

scripts.dll adds? sheesh.... Cat998 added "created by cat998" to his SSAOW port and u kick up a fuss.. lol

anyway, im gonna split this topic now - seems to me like all your interested in is flameing me for whatever reason... why do i have a feeling this is to do with the a0000004 business? just a month ago u were sucking up 2 me going "omg NR is the best bot ever"


EDIT: learn 2 u use the edit button, and to be honist i personally dont give a shit whether u think BR is better than NR or w/e - every bot is good for one thing. believe it or not i personally think danpauls done a pretty gd job on BR 1.43/1.5, fixing the mem leaks, cpu issues on gamelog etc

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Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235865 is a reply to message #235864] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nightma12 wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 16:53


scripts.dll adds? sheesh.... Cat998 added "created by cat998" to his SSAOW port and u kick up a fuss.. lol



I don't know if it is allowed, but because it's open source, you can remove those lines easily with the attached source code and compile it.
Re: Server Status On Website For NR [message #235868 is a reply to message #235865] Tue, 26 December 2006 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DodgeThis wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 16:58

Nightma12 wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 16:53


scripts.dll adds? sheesh.... Cat998 added "created by cat998" to his SSAOW port and u kick up a fuss.. lol



I don't know if it is allowed, but because it's open source, you can remove those lines easily with the attached source code and compile it.


What ? I never knew you gave this scripts.dll out to everyone lol.
but yeah, just recompile it without the advertising text.

And SeargentSarg, no triple posts please, next time they will
get deleted.


When people ask me "Plz" just because it's shorter than "Please" I feel perfectly justified to answer "No" because it's shorter then "Yes"

Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life

Want the best answers? Ask the best questions!

"So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235870 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NR used to be the best. It is excellent thanks to GUI Control Panel, IRC Output is better then BRenBots. It is just how gay it is. The advertisement. And I am not talking about Cat988's ad, I am talking about yours..

4[EKTBot4] Host: Running Server Side All Out War 1.5 ported to 2.9.2 by Cat998 - BlackIntel
4[EKTBot4] Host: BlackIntel.dll Support Was Added By Nightma12 - www.aohost.co.uk

I am still pissed off about the 04 business, yeah.

I am not flaming you, I am just expressing my hatred for [NR].

Plus, if I had to rate your bot to BR, I would give NR a higher rating. Only cause of the easier setup. I mean through BR, you have to edit commands.xml, which is a pain in the ass, everytime you re-setup you have to edit the level settings for irc, otherwise voice people can't even get !gi

Honestly, it seems wherever I go, I see "Nightma12" and/or "www.aohost.co.uk"


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so...you dont like microsoft, that is everywhere (i dont, but not for that reason).

and really, its not hard to edit a cfg file is it? dont feel envy for Nightma12, just because he is doing good.

i dont see why he should have to a line out of the autoanonce, there is nothing wrong with being credited for your work.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235872 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My point is, is it necessary to have "www.aohost.co.uk" everywhere?

I mean honestly.

From his forum signature, to his bot, to his bot gui control panel, to scripts.ddl, etc. I mean, honestly, its one thing to run a crappy bot like NR (remember, I used to love it in the 2.x versions..) but then pay for it to have the tags + irc licencse + ad removal?


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that ad will be removed in the next scripts.dll i release
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235874 is a reply to message #235872] Tue, 26 December 2006 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 12:32

My point is, is it necessary to have "www.aohost.co.uk" everywhere?

I mean honestly.

From his forum signature, to his bot, to his bot gui control panel, to scripts.ddl, etc. I mean, honestly, its one thing to run a crappy bot like NR (remember, I used to love it in the 2.x versions..) but then pay for it to have the tags + irc licencse + ad removal?


You sound like you either need to forget about NR, or forget about hosting, as by the sounds of it you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to bot setup. Brenbot is the most simple thing to setup & run.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235875 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Newsflash idiot, I quit hosting a long time ago.. Thumbs Up

Also idiot, BRenBot 1.43 (private beta..) is harder to setup then 1.31 cause if you want to set irc access levels, it will take forever. Unless your as lazy as someone AmunRa (no offense.. lol.)


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SeargentSarg wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 12:39

Newsflash idiot, I quit hosting a long time ago.. Thumbs Up

Also idiot, BRenBot 1.43 (private beta..) is harder to setup then 1.31 cause if you want to set irc access levels, it will take forever. Unless your as lazy as someone AmunRa (no offense.. lol.)


I know that, i ran 1.41 for over a year and had no problem with setting up the .xml commands. As a matter of fact, that system & plugin system that came with the bot was great. I made a few little extras for myself due to that. It explains itself really.

By the way, thank you for calling me an idiot Smile

*added SeargentSarg to people i want babies with list*
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235879 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know its easy to set it up if you have the time. I was just saying its becomming harder and harder to setup the bot within every update danpaul makes. [NR] is probably the easiest bot to setup these days.

Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235898 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Teh Pwnerer, why are you starting shit again? Every month you change your opinion on NightRegulator. You're not a server owner, you're not a developer, and you're not a contributor to this community. NightRegulator has so many features that BR and CS could only dream of ... and until recently when they started taking a lot of ideas from NR it was nowhear near the level of creativity that Nightma12 put into his bot.

When you run a successful community, server, or program that you wrote ... you can open your mouth about how things should be done. Until then, just be quiet and say your opinion - and then leave it at that. Don't argue with the senior members of this community on matters you barely understand. It's annoying as hell.
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Maybe you guys should read my interview with Nightma.

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fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 20:18

Teh Pwnerer, why are you starting shit again? Every month you change your opinion on NightRegulator. You're not a server owner, you're not a developer, and you're not a contributor to this community. NightRegulator has so many features that BR and CS could only dream of ... and until recently when they started taking a lot of ideas from NR it was nowhear near the level of creativity that Nightma12 put into his bot.

When you run a successful community, server, or program that you wrote ... you can open your mouth about how things should be done. Until then, just be quiet and say your opinion - and then leave it at that. Don't argue with the senior members of this community on matters you barely understand. It's annoying as hell.



/agreed

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The ads on startup is one of the main reasons I don't use BI's DLL.

I'm the bawss.
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well for ScriptsSE i will be removing my ad - as for cat's its up to him or not wether or not i remove it, although we will be useing that build of scripts.dll
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