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| Re: PT Bug Fix [message #230432 is a reply to message #229846] |
Tue, 14 November 2006 10:10   |
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reborn
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| EXdeath wrote on Thu, 09 November 2006 22:40 |
I can fix the problem with the purchase terminals being used from outside of the buildings.
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I offered to make that a part of the sscp2 map fixes, they didn't want me to.
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| Re: PT Bug Fix [message #230722 is a reply to message #229758] |
Thu, 16 November 2006 10:22 |
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Cat998
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I don't see the fucking problem you always have Silent_Kane.
Everyone knows that you discovered how to fix the bug, so why not share
the knowledge and help making renegade better, instead of
being childish. You made a fix yes, but who says it will always
be compatible will all the mods and have no bugs. So give other people
a chance to modify things or make things better/combine it with
other things.
We could already have more things done in/with Renegade, but it's so
hard to do something for Renegade, because everyone in this community behaves
childish and does not share anything because he fears someone
could include it in his own mod or he could steal it.
Everytime, someone wants to develop something for Renegade, he
needs to discover all the things and possibilities himself, and
that wastes much time, he could use for other usefull things.
I have much respect of your coding skills Silent_Kane, but I don't
have respect of your opinion in those things.
I know jonwil has stolen code from you, but instead of wallowing
in self-pity you could forgive him, and help him coding it.
You always say his is a shit coder... well, do it better 
He just took over bhs.dll because you wasn't able to do things in
time.
Sorry, I felt like saying all that
When people ask me "Plz" just because it's shorter than "Please" I feel perfectly justified to answer "No" because it's shorter then "Yes"
Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life
Want the best answers? Ask the best questions!
"So long, and thanks for all the fish."
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| Re: PT Bug Fix [message #230731 is a reply to message #229758] |
Thu, 16 November 2006 11:18 |
StealthEye
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Registered: May 2006
Location: The Netherlands
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So you do not release the source code because you don't like jonwil? It's a pity that one person can cause other people not to be helped by the code for some fix.
You think it is better to not make something like scripts.dll, so hardly anyone could be coding anything for renegade? I for example have had a lot of help from the scripts.dll source, it helped me learn C++, it helped me learn ASM, it helped me fix things like the start button bug, wall lag and turret lag. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have succeeded doing that if I had not had the scripts.dll code.
Yes, cheaters may get help by the scripts.dll source too, it's good that there are no ASM hacks there, but I don't think it's better to hide every bit of information because it could potentially be used by cheaters. Let's forbid all cars, because they could potentially be used for thieves to escape!
Also, jonwil always asked me when he wanted to include something into his scripts.dll, so I have no complaints. I like his attitude towards sharing things. I think that helped a lot of coders including me!
I think your "Conclusion" is lacking some arguments, tbh.
BlackIntel admin/founder/coder
Please visit http://www.blackintel.org/
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| Re: PT Bug Fix [message #230739 is a reply to message #229758] |
Thu, 16 November 2006 11:39 |
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I put them there because I always lost the orientation, when
reading longer texts, but it's ok for me if people think
it's easier to read without them 
But that shouldn't really matter now
When people ask me "Plz" just because it's shorter than "Please" I feel perfectly justified to answer "No" because it's shorter then "Yes"
Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life
Want the best answers? Ask the best questions!
"So long, and thanks for all the fish."
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| Re: PT Bug Fix [message #230751 is a reply to message #229758] |
Thu, 16 November 2006 12:15 |
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The attitude that everything should be open source is nothing but a farce. Why is it such a big deal if he wants to keep his work private? It's not like he's keeping the PT fix to the n00bstories server only. That should be the main issue. It's a public fix, so get over the fact that he doesn't want it open source. It's his work. It's his choice. I don't blame him for wanting to keep it private when he's been burnt more than once by a talentless thief.
As for breaking
your sentences it
really is an
annoyance,
maybe i shou
ld break up m
y words. that wo
uld help yo
u, wouldn't i
t, Cat?
How about if I d
o this would it he
lp you even mo
re?
Libertarian Party | The King's Throne | The Soda Shop
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| Re: PT Bug Fix [message #230753 is a reply to message #229758] |
Thu, 16 November 2006 12:23 |
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Crimson
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First off, Silent_Kane, quit being so rude. If you guys have all read the proposed forum rules, then you'd know that we are not going to tolerate people insulting or correcting others for typos.
Next, you can't say that "everyone knows" he did it. To this day, people still think I coded RenGuard when I am merely the mouthpiece/PR for it.
I'm the bawss.
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