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Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224125] Mon, 02 October 2006 16:36 Go to next message
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The future in server side cheat detection technology.

DragonGuard will be a new publically released server side mod built to detect, stop, and ban cheaters. It will be designed in such a way that it can work together with any custom scripts.dll, be it a plain one or another server side mod(SSAOW, DA, etc.), without any modifications to the scripts.dll. The first release will coincide with the release of SSAOW 1.6. It will be compatible with any total conversion mod.


At the moment the following cheat detection methods are finished and working:

  • Detection of any changes to the damage, warhead, or range of a weapon. This will detect numerous cheats, some of which are:
    • Damage: Any cheat that increases the damage of a weapon
    • Repair: Any cheat that increases the amount of damage repaired
    • Range: Cheats that extend the range of a weapon
    • Partial bones.ini: Any bones.ini cheat that uses a damage multiplier above 5
    • Beacon/C4 Repairing: A cheat that allows you to repair(not disarm) beacons and C4
    • Blamo: Using the blamo warhead to kill PTs, C130, and other objects that are normally invincible
  • Friendly Fire Exploit: An exploit that allows you to damage teammates


In addition to those, detection of the following will hopefully be finished before a public release:

  • Complete bones.ini: Any changes to the damage multiplier of a bone
  • Big Beacons/C4: Repairing beacons or C4 through walls using big beacon/C4
  • Ammo: Any cheat that increases the ammo of a gun or makes bullets use no ammo
  • ROF: Cheats that increase the rate of fire of a weapon
  • Hud.ini: Detects any client side changes to hud.ini. For total conversion mods with bhs.dll and hud.ini on the client only


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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224127 is a reply to message #224125] Mon, 02 October 2006 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fucking sweet.


GREAT work! Thumbs Up

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224128 is a reply to message #224125] Mon, 02 October 2006 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224141 is a reply to message #224125] Mon, 02 October 2006 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bout time, I'd say. Good work.

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224156 is a reply to message #224141] Mon, 02 October 2006 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what about skins? Does it warn about skins (Cause you can't really know if the skin someone is using is harmless or something like stealth-seeing.
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224157 is a reply to message #224125] Mon, 02 October 2006 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Theres no way for a server side program to detect skins.

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224209 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OMG AWESOME! Very Happy

may i ask what will happen to RenGuard though?
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224219 is a reply to message #224209] Tue, 03 October 2006 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that will still be there, cuz there are things that need to be client-side done

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224269 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you have a release date set for this?
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224279 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You said it works with everything... but what about mods? Will it mess up the server if it has mods in it?!
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224285 is a reply to message #224279] Tue, 03 October 2006 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bluethen wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 23:06

You said it works with everything... but what about mods? Will it mess up the server if it has mods in it?!

No.


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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224318 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does it detect radar hacks too, or is radar part of hud.ini?

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224319 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is definatly a very important news announcement.

Once I gave it some thought it seemed natural for you to produce an anit-cheat software. With all the work behind the ssaow scripts and etc, it makes logical sense that with that experience you should be able to perceive changes in those settings.

Hopefully you can complete some more of those features.
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224326 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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perfect give those cheaters some more grief Big Grin




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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224327 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think this definitely deserves to be an announcement for a little while. Thumbs Up

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224328 is a reply to message #224125] Tue, 03 October 2006 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great job! Big Grin
I last heard that cyber-something was working on a new, final cheat. If we get this out in time we won't have to worry what that cheat does and furthermore this'll make cheating even harder and moderating will become less hopefully and we can relax and play a nice good game for once. Thanks all. Thumbs Up
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224412 is a reply to message #224125] Wed, 04 October 2006 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, except that players will still be able to use Big heads,guns,bodies, radar hacks, and any skin they want... just to name a few. Yes, this is a great addition but don't make the mistake of thinking no one will ever be able to cheat again if this is released.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224426 is a reply to message #224412] Wed, 04 October 2006 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 03:37

Yeah, Big heads,guns,bodies, radar hacks, and any skin they want...


All of these are much easier to find and test for, radar hack aside, with a simple screenshot or test compared to damage/repair hacks used with right click etc.

If the new RG is anywhere near to completion, the two processes combined will be very good for the game.

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224431 is a reply to message #224128] Wed, 04 October 2006 05:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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=HT=T-Bird wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 02:19

WD>>>>>>Cyberpuke+0x90+warlenny Razz Razz


we'll see Razz

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224441 is a reply to message #224125] Wed, 04 October 2006 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about Stealth hacks?

Nice job Thumbs Up I can't wait til final release Big Grin


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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224442 is a reply to message #224125] Wed, 04 October 2006 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If possible can you PM me any ideas you have on a release date? I would like to (with your permission of course) bundle this fix with the package version of BRenBot 1.43 if it will be ready in time.

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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224443 is a reply to message #224431] Wed, 04 October 2006 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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0x90 wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 08:15

=HT=T-Bird wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 02:19

WD>>>>>>Cyberpuke+0x90+warlenny Razz Razz


we'll see Razz

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If BlackIntel can get a stable for of our cheat detection as well, say bye bye to big heads/bodies/guns and whatever else.

Stealth skins will be left?


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Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224449 is a reply to message #224125] Wed, 04 October 2006 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actualy, It's not a skin, It's a objects.ddb..

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
Re: Announcing: DragonGuard Anti-Cheat [message #224494 is a reply to message #224125] Wed, 04 October 2006 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Depends, to avoid issues with the whole stealth units thing, I use the stock stealth skin, if you are actually using objects.ddb to make stealth units not stealth... that's outright cheating, the former's a grey area.

Incidentally;

YAY!


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CarrierII At Times you scare me Big Ups

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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