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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216887 is a reply to message #216715] Sat, 02 September 2006 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 17:26

but also with a ladder, ego's and pride come into play and poeple with low ranks get called "n00b" and poeple generally dont like them for some reason.

btw: i like your new sig Wink



Not entirely true Huh

The only reason I wouldn't like someone with a bad rank, would be if they were complete n00bers on my team Thumbs Up

Alsong as they are on the other team or don't be nubish in my point of veiw im ok with it Big Grin


Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216967 is a reply to message #216715] Sat, 02 September 2006 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 18:26

but also with a ladder, ego's and pride come into play and poeple with low ranks get called "n00b" and poeple generally dont like them for some reason.

btw: i like your new sig Wink

Just laugh at anyone who thinks having a rank proves anything.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216986 is a reply to message #216967] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ralphzehunter wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 22:48


Just laugh at anyone who thinks having a rank proves anything.



If the ladder was up, it could prove a few things. Somebody who has a really high rank, like in the ten-thousands, obviously has some bad playing habits.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216994 is a reply to message #216986] Sat, 02 September 2006 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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z310 wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 23:29

Ralphzehunter wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 22:48


Just laugh at anyone who thinks having a rank proves anything.



If the ladder was up, it could prove a few things. Somebody who has a really high rank, like in the ten-thousands, obviously has some bad playing habits.

Or they never use that name, fool around on it, have just made it, don't play in laddered servers, play small games, only snipe on it, or many other reasons.. Tbh, I think the guys with the lower ranks, such as in the tens, etc. have some pretty bad playing habits..


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217006 is a reply to message #216286] Sun, 03 September 2006 02:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 30 August 2006 15:51

HEY GUYS! WE'RE ALL PALS HERE!


lol, i'm sorry, but i'm laughing over that. Big Grin


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217008 is a reply to message #216994] Sun, 03 September 2006 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ralphzehunter wrote on Sun, 03 September 2006 16:02


Or they never use that name, fool around on it, have just made it, don't play in laddered servers, play small games, only snipe on it, or many other reasons.. Tbh, I think the guys with the lower ranks, such as in the tens, etc. have some pretty bad playing habits..

That's a solid comeback.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217097 is a reply to message #216994] Sun, 03 September 2006 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ralphzehunter wrote on Sun, 03 September 2006 00:02

Or they never use that name, fool around on it, have just made it, don't play in laddered servers, play small games, only snipe on it, or many other reasons.. Tbh, I think the guys with the lower ranks, such as in the tens, etc. have some pretty bad playing habits..

Fooling around on it is a bad playing habit. Also, depending on how the ranking system works, only sniping may not kill your rank. The same could go for just making the nick and playing in small or unladdered games.

Notice how I said could; what I said after that was just an example of what it could prove. I know, it doesn't look like that, but that's what I meant.

How the ladder system would work needs to be delcared before we can aruge over stuff like this.

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217109 is a reply to message #217097] Sun, 03 September 2006 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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z310 wrote on Sun, 03 September 2006 16:27

Fooling around on it is a bad playing habit. Also, depending on how the ranking system works, only sniping may not kill your rank. The same could go for just making the nick and playing in small or unladdered games.

Notice how I said could; what I said after that was just an example of what it could prove. I know, it doesn't look like that, but that's what I meant.

How the ladder system would work needs to be delcared before we can aruge over stuff like this.

Yeah.. Fooling around on it is a bad habit, and I was just pointing out what would give you a bad rank using the old ladder, though hopefully the new ladder will be better. And the part about lower-ranked people having bad playing habits was a joke about how they should go outside once in a while. Wink I was just trying to say, don't let people put you down if you have a higher rank than them, because with the old ladder all you had to do was join a huge server and hold down the left mouse button in an mrl/arty to get a good rank.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217110 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let them try and put you down. Show them that you are better - competition is great in online games.

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217120 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's our timeline for the ladders:

1) Finish a basic ladder that just mimics the old Westwood ladder functionality (ladder points from the server).

2) Create a kick-ass clan ladder with the assistance of people who have really knowledgable about what Renegade clanning has evolved to these days.

3) Revitalize the public ladder to something really cool that's a better indicator of skill.


I'm the bawss.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217121 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cool. Thumbs Up
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217123 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Plans are lookin good Thumbs Up
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217125 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds nice.

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217143 is a reply to message #215701] Sun, 03 September 2006 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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does anyone have any clue when the server is going to come back online, if it does?
Also, i can't even chose what server i want to use, it just put me stright into the west wood server, i can't even use gamespy!!!





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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217144 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XWIS is back up. O_o
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217150 is a reply to message #217144] Sun, 03 September 2006 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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z310 wrote on Sun, 03 September 2006 21:51

XWIS is back up. O_o


Its been up for awhile Huh Lol but but i'm on it all the time.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217152 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was responding to Stainer93. lol

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217155 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocked Over My mistake!

Offtopic: How did you become an invisible member?
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217160 is a reply to message #217155] Sun, 03 September 2006 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kamuix wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 01:13

Rocked Over My mistake!

Offtopic: How did you become an invisible member?

Invisible..? oO?


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217161 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I mean like on the forums.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217162 is a reply to message #217161] Sun, 03 September 2006 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kamuix wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 01:24

I mean like on the forums.

I know what you mean.. Yet I don't.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217163 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, we're not derailing the topic.
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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217164 is a reply to message #214866] Sun, 03 September 2006 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just now found the thing at the bottom saying who's online. ^^

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217165 is a reply to message #217120] Sun, 03 September 2006 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Sun, 03 September 2006 18:34


3) Revitalize the public ladder to something really cool that's a better indicator of skill.

I've been poking at that for years now.. there's just no way to do that based off the current point system. Calculating purely off of kills, vehicle kills or base destruction doesn't work either because it doesn't take into account the team players that do the "little things."

One idea I have played around with is calculating the top 5%-10% of the player ranks in the server on each side and coming out with an average rank between those players, then use the old formula Westwood used for the RTS games to award ladder points. Then you have to figure out how to award and subtract ladder points fairly for all players on the team, which goes back to the flawed point system.

I'm interested to know if you've come up with anything.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #217191 is a reply to message #214866] Mon, 04 September 2006 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Viva la Resistance!
unfortunately, with this ladder system, people could play games with only them in it just to earn points, or go o co-op games where points are easy to get and so are kills and wins.

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