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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #197499 is a reply to message #192004] Mon, 24 April 2006 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you know if the FDS will whore CPU like it does on Windows when there's alot of players ingame?

Also, since the WOL ladder doesn't exactly work, can you still host a laddered server just to have the laddered scores display, or is displaying the scores the part you have to fix?

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #197508 is a reply to message #197499] Mon, 24 April 2006 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From what I've heard, it seems the *nix FDS has less exploits/crash bugs than the Windows FDS. Would be interesting to compare their performance.

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #197531 is a reply to message #192004] Mon, 24 April 2006 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I havn't done any testing yet, but I'm sure the LFDS will way out-perform the WIN32 FDS for various reasons. The Linux kernel has superior multitasking and TCP/IP stack. With a Linux server, you have almost all of the machine resources...unlike windows where the GUI and all the stupid MS services are consuming memory and CPU cycles. The LFDS also seems to require less RAM on Linux.

One test I have performed was getting v00d00 to DDOS the game server port with firewall probe packets. Even while this was going on and the LFDS was responding to every packet, the CPU usage was "0.0%" Smile

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #197895 is a reply to message #192004] Wed, 26 April 2006 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would love to test this,

Have a good 100mbit planet server (the linux is only a fc4 in vmware though).

Sounds like good work blazer. And to all the other people that have / will work on the project.


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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198001 is a reply to message #192004] Thu, 27 April 2006 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont think a linux server in a vmware window on a windows server would be a proper testing ground Smile

I'm looking for people who already run an Linux FDS, that want to try having their server on XWIS simultaneously.
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198012 is a reply to message #192004] Thu, 27 April 2006 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a FreeBSD 6 (RELEASE) and a FreeBSD 5.3 box I wouldn't mind testing it on.

Planning on running a public server on one of those (Most likely the 6-RELEASE box), and would love to test it whenever you have something workable ready.


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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198030 is a reply to message #192004] Fri, 28 April 2006 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let me know once you have a working GSA LFDS that is using/can use the latest scripts.dll builds (there is a rh7 and rh8 build so you have to find which one works for freebsd).
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198037 is a reply to message #198030] Fri, 28 April 2006 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 02:16

Let me know once you have a working GSA LFDS that is using/can use the latest scripts.dll builds (there is a rh7 and rh8 build so you have to find which one works for freebsd).

What gcc/binutils/glibc versions are required by the LFDS builds? Please don't tell me "what comes with rh7/8", as my only Linux box runs Debian "Sarge".


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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198045 is a reply to message #198001] Fri, 28 April 2006 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I`ve got an Debian-Woody Server, and would like to try to run my server on XWIS.
My Server is using RH7 with CP2.


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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198147 is a reply to message #198030] Fri, 28 April 2006 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have the 7.3 version working fine on FreeBSD with linux-base installed.

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198150 is a reply to message #198037] Fri, 28 April 2006 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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=HT=T-Bird wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 07:59

Blazer wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 02:16

Let me know once you have a working GSA LFDS that is using/can use the latest scripts.dll builds (there is a rh7 and rh8 build so you have to find which one works for freebsd).

What gcc/binutils/glibc versions are required by the LFDS builds? Please don't tell me "what comes with rh7/8", as my only Linux box runs Debian "Sarge".


I'm running the RH8 version of the LFDS on RedHat Enterprise Linux 4ES

$ ldd renegade
libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x005ae000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x00589000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0080f000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x0045d000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00444000)

$ rpm -qa |grep glibc
glibc-common-2.3.4-2.13
glibc-2.3.4-2.13
glibc-kernheaders-2.4-9.1.98.EL
glibc-devel-2.3.4-2.13
glibc-headers-2.3.4-2.13

$ rpm -qa |grep gcc
libgcc-3.4.4-2
gcc-g77-3.4.4-2
gcc-3.4.4-2
compat-gcc-32-3.2.3-47.3
gcc-c++-3.4.4-2
gcc-java-3.4.4-2
compat-gcc-32-c++-3.2.3-47.3

I dunno what libs are needed to run the RH7 one.
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #198977 is a reply to message #192004] Mon, 08 May 2006 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Time for an update I guess. Once scripts.dll 2.7.1 was released, XWISP seems to be working fine. I am cleaning up the code to prepare for releasing a beta.

Once SSAOW 1.6 is released, I will be putting up a 50 player LFDS with all the bells and whistles (ssaow+brenbot), with a decently high a000 nickname in hopes that enough people will join that I can do a real stress test.

So far I have had a max of 13 players playing on my test server, and during this time renegade was using 13% CPU, XWISP itself was using little to no CPU at all, and brenbot (1.43) was using 4% CPU.

I'm anxious to see how the server performs with 32+ players, if it happens I will let you know the outcome.

As for the beta test, I am getting lots of requests already to test XWISP. Please bear with me and wait until I publically release the beta. Also please bear in mind that I only intend to support XWISP itself. I cannot help people install and troubleshoot linux issues.

XWISP was designed for people who already have a linux GSA server that they wish to be on XWIS/WOL as well. I realize some people may want to switch from a win32 FDS to Linux, especially if it performs better, but it's simply not my job or desire to handhold people through learning to install and use the linux OS. I also don't recommend installing linux in a vmware window to use XWISP (more than one person has asked me about this) - it totally cancelles out the advantage of using linux over win32 in the first place.

Okay enough rambling, just wanted to post an update. Feel free to ask any questions or relavant comments.
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #199380 is a reply to message #192004] Sat, 13 May 2006 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any idea on when this will be released?
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #199417 is a reply to message #192004] Sat, 13 May 2006 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Soon" Smile I have two things I need to do first:

1. Testing of the LFDS has revealed than banning GSA players no longer works. I'm not sure if its the latest scripts.dll, or other LFDS patches we applied that broke it. The ban issue isn't an XWISP-specific problem, but I plan on releasing XWISP along with the latest scripts.dll (have to, since XWISP relies on a function in it), and if that scripts.dll breaks GSA banning, then I would be releasing something which breaks the LFDS...not good.

2. I want to do some testing with ssaow 1.6 when it's released (any day now?) to make sure it's compatible (again XWISP relies on a function that is in scripts.dll which is also merged into ssaow).

So I need to do some testing to resolve the gsa banning problem, and hopefully ssaow 1.6 will be out soon and then I can put up a fully featured 50 player server and stress test the hell out of it.

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #199965 is a reply to message #192004] Thu, 18 May 2006 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anymore notable progressions with this yet? I'm really looking forward to this being released.

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #202524 is a reply to message #192004] Mon, 05 June 2006 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Updates?
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #206666 is a reply to message #192004] Wed, 05 July 2006 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[15:44:30] <Crimson> and it's done, he is just waiting for SSAOW mod to work on Linux correctly


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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #209586 is a reply to message #192004] Mon, 24 July 2006 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i bet i feels really good to have so many people on a thread anuxly waiting for this release, and still there is no auguments on a 30+ posts topic... renegadeforums.com record.

i cannot wait till this come out.
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #210176 is a reply to message #192004] Fri, 28 July 2006 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer, mind releasing this for the few of us that don't use SSAOW?

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #214057 is a reply to message #192004] Sat, 19 August 2006 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry to bump this again, but it'd be nice to get an update and possibly a beta. Big Grin

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #214065 is a reply to message #192004] Sat, 19 August 2006 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes me 2.

We have a Nice Linux Server and we´re waiting von XWISP
Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #214127 is a reply to message #192004] Sun, 20 August 2006 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd rather only do one release. If I release now, I will have to test with ssaow and possibly/probably fix something and then release again. Hopefully ssaow will be out any day now so it won't be much longer.
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I don't know if I told you on IRC yet, but my main computer is dead right now. So I can't do any work on SSAOW.

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Re: Renegade FDS Running on Linux - on XWIS/WOL!!! [message #214476 is a reply to message #192004] Tue, 22 August 2006 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Then its a good time to release xwisp + source now. Tell Me

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I would really love a beta release. We have all been waiting on this for quite awhile now. Big Ups

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