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| Re: C&C Reborn is released! [message #184011 is a reply to message #183935] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 01:15   |
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| xptek wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 13:21 |
| DJM wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 07:29 |
Do you ever post anything useful? The majority (if not all) of your posts either tell us what we already know or re-cycle what somebody else has said.
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The majority (if not all) of your posts are either you bitching or you bitching.
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Please don't quote DJM, he's ignored here but quoting always brings forwards the senceles shit he spreads...
Besides that, I think we all agree with your reply and with the fact that the obvious often still needs to be said.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: C&C Reborn is released! [message #184064 is a reply to message #184061] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 16:35 |
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| Chronojam wrote on Thu, 29 December 2005 17:32 |
Stay on topic, asshats; or at least vaguely close to it. I don't want this locked.
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The topic being Aircraftkiller being an ass as usuall by posting stuff from Reborn because anything besides his work sucks?
w00t?
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| Re: C&C Reborn is released! [message #184065 is a reply to message #182772] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 16:48 |
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Here, read this; I wrote it for the C&CNZ guys who questioned my motives on this. Maybe you'll shut the fuck up afterward, rmrandomassortednumbers.
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Looking in from the outside, as Chickendippers and Sonic do, I can understand your frustration and I can also agree with why you're upset over what I've done. If I hadn't of experienced what these people do, I would probably be saying the same exact things to someone who did what I did.
The problem is my experience with the Reborn members, both past and present. They've had two teams and both of them are comprised of compulsive liars and people who intentionally get your hopes up only to find out that they were full of it all along. I released that alpha because it was given to me for that purpose alone. Their own team member left because nobody there got along with each other, and instead of doing something to further their project; they blamed their problems on me and my team and falsified their updates to say they had almost everything (75% complete: http://www.cncreborn.planetcnc.gamespy.com...eaa12351454d58) ready to be released in a month or two, which is blatant lying and should not be tolerated by anyone in the community.
This is how I've always felt about people that are simply doing something like this for personal glory for a few months instead of for a community that wants to play something they're making. I know they're not making any money out of it, but why commit yourself to something and promise people what you can't deliver? At least be a man, have honor, and tell them exactly what's going on. You may not be making money, but that's no excuse to consistently lie for a year just so you keep people from trying to leave to find other projects that are actually going to care about the community enough to release what they're doing and finish it off to a playable release.
I know nobody likes someone who leaks work, but unfortunately for everyone who would love to see it as a mark against me: I didn't leak it. It was given to me, thus I could never have leaked it since I never worked in their team and I never stole anything from them. To quote Sir Phoenixx, the entire situation is like this: A (former) employee of Renardin's sneaks into his store, takes a box of private stuff, and gets away. Aircraftkiller takes photographs of this stuff, sits the box on a table, and tapes the photographs and an advertisement to come look in the box on boards and sits the signs in a public place. Renardin then randomly comes in and shoots Aircraftkiller.
That's pretty much how this all worked out. I'm getting the blame for the actions of a guy who wanted nothing more than to expose them for being liars that never got anything done. I've already tried the other ways of explaining it to people, but the problem is that nobody listens to me (or anyone else on the subject, curiously) until proof of wrongdoing is provided.
Now Sonic, I wouldn't honestly care about having my work leaked out to the public. Years ago I would have, but then I realized that it's nothing but advertisement for whatever we're doing at the moment; working on my project is more important than raising hell over a leaked file that doesn't show what we're really doing anyway. There's a good chance this next version coming up, the 1.0 release, will have something leaked early. I'll probably be estatic over that because I'm overjoyed to see all this high-polygon artwork that we've made go into Renegade, and a tank or building getting released early won't really matter since our team isn't ashamed of what we're making.
I gained satisfaction that justice was served, not only to myself (I know I deserve some kind of punishment since I've been enough of an ass over the years to justify whatever I get lately), but to the Reborn team for what they've failed to do in the eyes of their fans. I used to be a fan of theirs back in 2002, until they started this game where they blame me and my team for trying to help them and lie about their progress.
I won't disagree that what you're seeing right now is disheartening. However, I don't see that as justifying anyone speaking behind my back like you are here. You know I rarely visit this place, and you definitely know that if I have a problem with you I'm going to tell you about it.
I hope this ends the ordeal... We all have better things to do right now than bicker over something this pointless. Justice was served not only to myself but to my main objective, and if they continue lying I'm going to continue exposing them somehow, even if it means I'll have to write out a long report outlining exactly what they're doing so people understand that it should not be acceptable to lie, cover up your lies with blame, and kill the hopes of others off because of your lies and coverups.
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| Re: C&C Reborn is released! [message #184090 is a reply to message #184088] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 20:37 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 29 December 2005 21:24 |
I had every right to do so, and I'm not going to be banned. 
Save your rhetoric for later when I release a lot more from Reborn.
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I realized you wouldn't be banned from here a long time ago. I figure if the community keeps reinforcing the idea to ban you we might get our wish one day.
You've already been banned from some renegade related sites. You should be banned from all of them by now.
Puzzle - Petals Around the Rose
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| Re: C&C Reborn is released! [message #184092 is a reply to message #184081] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 20:45 |
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rm5248
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 29 December 2005 20:15 |
Put it in context, you moron. I wrote that in the C&C webmasters forum, not this one. I certainly intend to continue harassing Reborn in this thread and many others for a long time to come.
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So, you posted it on here because...?
w00t?
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| Re: C&C Reborn is released! [message #184095 is a reply to message #184088] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 21:15 |
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Registered: February 2005
Location: Sugar Land, TX, USA
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 29 December 2005 21:24 |
I had every right to do so
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We've gone over this already. You don't have "every right" to do so. Suppose your best friend takes your computer and gives it to me. I then don't have a right to then take the files on your hard drive and give them to anyone I see. It's illegal and unethical.
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