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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157680] Tue, 31 May 2005 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157712] Tue, 31 May 2005 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Idiot.
Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157714] Tue, 31 May 2005 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157724] Tue, 31 May 2005 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gdiguy45

comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, numbers in place of words, comma, comma, comma...


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Paragraph that's big enough to be given its own area code...



Spelling, punctuation, INDENTATION.

General rule of thumb: If your post appears with paragraphs that contain multiple topics or exceed ~10-15 lines, PRESS ENTER AND START A NEW PARAGRAPH.

Second General Rule of Thumb: commas are no substitute for properly placed periods. Also consider using dashes (-) and semicolons (; ).

Third General Rule of Thumb: When posting on a forum, you DO have the time to fully type out words. It is considered good forum etiquette to do so. Intentional misuse of letters and numbers as full words is fine IN GAME, where speedy typing is of the essence- when used on a message board, it makes your posts appear poorly thought out and rushed (not to mention that most people really don't want to read around all of that stuff).

Sorry, I know I rarely ride on peoples' grammar, but there's a certain point beyond which a post ceases to be a post and becomes an unreadable mass of text.

Meanwhile, back in the original topic...

Every vehicle, save for the transport chopper, has its uses. There is a time and a place for the Mammoth- it is a specialized unit. The Medium and Light tanks are general purpose units- it is only natural that they should be used more used and useful. As I said before, the Mammoth's biggest asset is its massive bulk (which is often overlooked, since that is also its greatest weakness). It should also never go unsupported- like a battleship with destroyer and cruiser escorts, a Mammoth should always have a few Mediums and APCs around it (and perhaps a MRLS, where appropriate, or the AGT if on defense), as well as Engineer support. It is simply too big to deal with many threats on its own. A properly supported Mammoth, when used in the right place at the right time, can be absolutely devastating.


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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157731] Tue, 31 May 2005 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Mammoth Tank isn't supposed to be specialized in that manner, it's supposed to be the best vehicle to use in the game with little disadvantages besides its price, reload time, and speed.
Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157734] Tue, 31 May 2005 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reload time? What's wrong with that? Do you mean reloading ammo? If yes, it's very fast...

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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157743] Tue, 31 May 2005 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The tank is meant to fire both cannons in succession, bang bang instead of bang---bang---bang---bang. The reload time is about 50% longer than the Medium Tank, but it does almost 1.5 times more damage with each shell. This wasn't implemented in Renegade, which is one reason why the tank is crap.

In Renegade Alert the Mammoth Tank is something to be feared. Its missiles are the same range as the cannons, which is what they should have been in Renegade, they can attack aircraft and move at the proper speed which is 25% faster than they do in Renegade. They also cost $1,700. People can use them in RA because they don't get penalized for it. Shooting the tank doesn't give you points, only destroying it. So you can use it all you want and support the front lines without a problem while Heavy Tanks provide the main assault.
Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157781] Tue, 31 May 2005 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The trouble with that double fire is that it takes longer to change the focus from one target to the next if you have to fire both shots so fast and have a longer reload. I personally find the tank boring like that. battles are more fun with a steady exchange of shots. The Renegade mammoth gives you more control than the renalert one, which I didn't like it much.
Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157783] Tue, 31 May 2005 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mammy is damn good for fighting off air vehicles.

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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157793] Tue, 31 May 2005 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157796] Tue, 31 May 2005 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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leave the mammy at home, MRLs and Meds are your friends Smile

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Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #157807] Tue, 31 May 2005 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like I said, it is all a matter of opinion.

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Also [message #157810] Tue, 31 May 2005 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another reason the mammoth tank has a bad reputation, because less experienced players often feel as if the tank is super-powerful since its health is so high. They drive the tanks into dangerous places and often relize they need to retreat when its too late...............................wasted 1500 credits.

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Re: Also [message #157812] Tue, 31 May 2005 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gdiguy45

Another reason the mammoth tank has a bad reputation, is that noobs that drive the tank often feel as if the tank is super-powerful since its health is so high. They drive the tanks into dangerous places and often relize they need to retreat when its too late...............................wasted 1500 credits.

Im guilty of wasting that 1500 Creds before. Ive stopped using Mammoths, though, opting instead to use Sniper weapons, and Mediums.


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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158682 is a reply to message #157191] Mon, 06 June 2005 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I fyou are good enough, you can make a hummer outlast a mammy.

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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158687 is a reply to message #157191] Mon, 06 June 2005 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll bet £50 you havn't done that once.

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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158691 is a reply to message #157191] Mon, 06 June 2005 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it were JUST tanks shooting at you, it would be possible...maybe even easy. APCs can do it, after all, and they have basically the same weapon and top speed (though more maneuverability). What seals a Buggy or Hummer's fate is its armor type...within five seconds of one appearing, every damned 'sniper' on the map is going to be shooting it (not to mention the dedicated anti-vehicle infantry). You would be lucky to make it halfway out into the field and start shooting. Surviving in a Hummer or Buggy isn't a matter of skill, it's a matter of luck and how many enemy sniper-class units are in the field.

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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158706 is a reply to message #157191] Mon, 06 June 2005 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I try and save my ammo for bigger targets... That Raveshaw for instance, and those two Seige weapons...(Artillery/MRLS)

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Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30

I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(

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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158716 is a reply to message #158687] Mon, 06 June 2005 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DJM wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 14:36

I'll bet £50 you havn't done that once.


I've come pretty close, if backup hadn't arrived...


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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158751 is a reply to message #157191] Mon, 06 June 2005 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wrong, apcs do not have top speed out of all tanks nor more maneuverability. Their maneuverability is quite crap because they always have to turn on the spot before moving. The buggy has highest speed and maneuverability, then the hummvee.
Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158754 is a reply to message #157191] Mon, 06 June 2005 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll take a mammoth any day on with a medium tank. If I'm not able to destroy the mammoth, I'll at least get it to below 300 health (armor already gone).
Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #158945 is a reply to message #158691] Tue, 07 June 2005 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NukeIt15 wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 14:57

If it were JUST tanks shooting at you, it would be possible...maybe even easy. APCs can do it, after all, and they have basically the same weapon and top speed (though more maneuverability). What seals a Buggy or Hummer's fate is its armor type...within five seconds of one appearing, every damned 'sniper' on the map is going to be shooting it (not to mention the dedicated anti-vehicle infantry). You would be lucky to make it halfway out into the field and start shooting. Surviving in a Hummer or Buggy isn't a matter of skill, it's a matter of luck and how many enemy sniper-class units are in the field.


I hope your not talkin cwars, because humvees and buggys saved me numerous time so i could get a cheap shot on teams(especially in city_flying at the beggining.)


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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #159817 is a reply to message #157807] Tue, 14 June 2005 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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deadfive wrote on Tue, 31 May 2005 21:07

Like I said, it is all a matter of opinion.


So true! cauce any thing can kill a mammy,I use chemical warriors,mammy can't turn fast enuff.

but in a 5 mammy rush can't nothing stop that,you can but its go take half of your base.

for me I crush mammy drivers with the flamer,
with all the small maps I'm the only one here it seems that know a flamer is the best out of all the land vecs.

they small,fast and the armor is great.the maps people play on are to small for tanks really.

Why you shooting tank shells that flamer steady digging in the base, no reload makes it the silent killer of GDI bases Thumbs Up


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Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #159895 is a reply to message #159817] Tue, 14 June 2005 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silent killer? Yeah, a loud, continuous stream of flame is real silent. I would say the the silent killer would be absolutely nothing. The fastest killer would be several MRLS/Artillery units on a hill, pegging a building. The most discreet way would be a Beacon, and the most destructive way would be tanks. Infanty rushes arent really used in taking out entire bases unless necessary. Oh, and the most reckless: Rocket unit.

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Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30

I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
Re: Medium Tank VS. Mammoth Tank [message #159963 is a reply to message #159895] Wed, 15 June 2005 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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you shiting me"The most discreet way would be a Beacon, and the most destructive way would be tanks".tanks ain't got nothing on a flame rush and when you here "Nuclear strike\beacon deployed" every engineer on it. you really deny the flamer, you can't be good at this game i see. Big Grin

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