| renguard hacked [message #149067] |
Mon, 11 April 2005 14:44   |
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Crimson
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Well why doesn't this "fooker" come post on here? The owner of the UN servers already posts on here.
Your "suggestion" would not work for several reasons, not the least of which is that the way we check files is far more accurate than what you propose.
I'm the bawss.
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| moderators [message #149230] |
Tue, 12 April 2005 06:03 |
joel-nl
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I have been talking to some moderators at unrules newmaps.
The problem is the server owners (just like u blazer) like alkaline dont believe it can be bypassed. The real people in the field: the moderators, have seen it has been bypassed in practice. Fooker has tried in the past to get the renguard makers to acknowledge there were bypasses like published on the **DO NOT POST THIS LINK HERE** forums. When he did that he was silenced and banned from http://www.renegadeforums.com/ cause u guys didnt want the truth to be told. As with the cracked version of game(2).exe it still exist the crc check on the data folder is still failing and renguard is still being bypassed.
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| renguard hacked [message #149237] |
Tue, 12 April 2005 06:51 |
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mac
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No, you're wrong. I see hunderts of non matching game2.exe versions every day, and none of them are bypassing RenGuard.
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danpaul88: buggy bugs brenbot because buggy befriends brainlessness
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| renguard hacked [message #149249] |
Tue, 12 April 2005 07:53 |
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Dan
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But how can you tell they arent bypassing RenGuard for sure? I mean, to you it would look like they're logged in and all innocent and that lot, but they could have bypassed it O_o
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| Re: moderators [message #149255] |
Tue, 12 April 2005 09:05 |
Spoony_old
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| joel-nl |
Fooker has tried in the past to get the renguard makers to acknowledge there were bypasses like published on the BitchCommunity.com forums. When he did that he was silenced and banned from http://www.renegadeforums.com/ cause u guys didnt want the truth to be told.
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Or maybe because he was giving out links to sites full of cheating fuckbags?
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| renguard hacked [message #149259] |
Tue, 12 April 2005 09:51 |
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Crimson
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PLEASE! Alkaline has always been one of our biggest critics. He's never had full confidence in RenGuard and never will. And I'm not Blazer. I'm Crimson.
I'm the bawss.
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| renguard hacked [message #150237] |
Mon, 18 April 2005 17:28 |
CaptApple
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I too play on unrules new maps server. I'm running renguard 1.3 and connect through Gamespy via that renegade page that appears before the game loads. The other night some other player claimed I wasn't running renguard and now I can't connect. What gives? I haven't changed anything on my system and if renguard wasn't loaded how is it that I connect through it. Is my installation f'd up or is Unrules server?
I've played 500+ hours of renegade in the last year and I do not cheat (I think my scores will bear that out  ).
CaptApple
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Are you sure RG has been hacked again? Because uber leetness is not cheating.
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| renguard hacked [message #150334] |
Mon, 18 April 2005 23:43 |
Alkaline
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PLEASE! Alkaline has always been one of our biggest critics. He's never had full confidence in RenGuard and never will. And I'm not Blazer. I'm Crimson.
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correction:
I am one of crimson's biggest critics, I have never had full confidence in Crimson and never will. As for Renguard, in the beggining it was full of bugs and unstable and the privacy issues were just. Now we run the program because its good and UN clan has donated money to rg team so whatever.
As for the renguard bypassing, I'm not commenting either way, but yes I have seen some crazy shit going on with people that have rengaurd, you'd swear they have FR, because they behave the same way. E.g. shoot at you with rifle, 75% life gone, then shoot randomly at walls acting as if they were missing, then shoot at you again and perfect headshoots...
but, I'm not saying anything, people with an unsuall high kill count and something that obviously leads you to belive they are cheating are banned even with rg. When these exploits come to the point where the rg team finds out about them, they will fix them. But as for now its the best they can offer.
http://www.UNRules.com
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| cheater detector [message #150358] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 05:10 |
joel-nl
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i agree that rg stops most of the cheaters but its not 100 pct cheater free
my suggestion is:
1 disconnect the renguard network completely
2 search the server for people on mirc that still have renguard (while the network is down) (!pi)
3 scan their data map
4 check what cheat they use
5 adapt renguard so the cheat is detected in the future
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| renguard hacked [message #150362] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 05:51 |
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mac
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You have no technical understanding how RenGuard works and is designed. The "x" in BRenBot comes when the SSC binds the player to its server when the player been located on the RenGuard network
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danpaul88: buggy bugs brenbot because buggy befriends brainlessness
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| Re: cheater detector [message #150363] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 05:56 |
Spoony_old
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| joel-nl |
i agree that rg stops most of the cheaters but its not 100 pct cheater free
my suggestion is:
1 disconnect the renguard network completely
2 search the server for people on mirc that still have renguard (while the network is down) (!pi)
3 scan their data map
4 check what cheat they use
5 adapt renguard so the cheat is detected in the future
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What the hell are you talking about?
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| renguard hacked [message #150425] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 12:47 |
joel-nl
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read the complete post otherwise u dont understand it cause u dont have the CONTEXT
but ill try anyways:
turn off the renguard network:
This just means like it says no renguard service for all servers in the world for a few minutes
Then server owners and mods must check on mirc who still had renguard running this means the people who still have rg running have hacked rg.
then they must check the data folder/map with the method i specified inTthis forum before.
When the cheat is identified (by downloading it from the cheater and examining it) the rg makers must adapt the program so it cant be bypassed anymore
genius solution i would say
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| renguard hacked [message #150436] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 13:17 |
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Crimson
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You have absolutely no idea how the software works. What you describe is not possible.
I'm the bawss.
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| renguard hacked [message #150447] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 14:29 |
Spoony_old
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| joel-nl |
read the complete post otherwise u dont understand it cause u dont have the CONTEXT
but ill try anyways:
turn off the renguard network:
This just means like it says no renguard service for all servers in the world for a few minutes
Then server owners and mods must check on mirc who still had renguard running this means the people who still have rg running have hacked rg.
then they must check the data folder/map with the method i specified inTthis forum before.
When the cheat is identified (by downloading it from the cheater and examining it) the rg makers must adapt the program so it cant be bypassed anymore
genius solution i would say
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The only part which makes sense is the part I've highlighted in bold and italics
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| renguard hacked [message #150461] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 16:29 |
Kanezor
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Registered: February 2005
Location: Sugar Land, TX, USA
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| joel-nl |
read the complete post otherwise u dont understand it cause u dont have the CONTEXT
but ill try anyways:
turn off the renguard network:
This just means like it says no renguard service for all servers in the world for a few minutes
Then server owners and mods must check on mirc who still had renguard running this means the people who still have rg running have hacked rg.
then they must check the data folder/map with the method i specified inTthis forum before.
When the cheat is identified (by downloading it from the cheater and examining it) the rg makers must adapt the program so it cant be bypassed anymore
genius solution i would say
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I quite do understand the idea you're presenting. I myself have no exact working knowledge of RenGuard (not having the source code), but having written and assisted with several similar utilities (not all in one..., but different bot projects, two server projects, a few hack projects, and numerous utility programs... some of which had anti-hack mechanisms in them)... I can pretty much tell you that your solution won't work because client-side RenGuard doesn't connect to the Renegade server (thus, BRenBot gets just about all of its information from the RenGuard server). Because of this, it is all-but-impossible to fool BRenBot into thinking you're running RenGuard. Instead, you must fool the RenGuard server into thinking you're running RenGuard -- since the Renegade server / BRenBot would no longer be connected to the RenGuard server (being offline for your idea), BRenBot would not know who's running RenGuard and who's not (including hacks).
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read the complete post otherwise u dont understand it cause u dont have the CONTEXT
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| renguard hacked [message #150474] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 18:04 |
joel-nl
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if no connection exist between client and server my solution isnt possible but if the renguard connection does exit but is BYPASSED (hence forum handler) a connection does exist so cheater can be checked
cheater is bypassing rg by letting rg check a different folder (like d4t4)
all explained on a forum which im not allowed to show here
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| renguard hacked [message #150480] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 19:08 |
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ghostSWT
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| joel-nl |
cheater is bypassing rg by letting rg check a different folder (like d4t4) all explained on a forum which im not allowed to show here
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that was fixed at or b4 "Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:31 am" so this is old news, this exploit no longer works
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Renguard Bypass Crack #1
Status: Fixed
Description:
This is a crack and bypass mixed togheter which allows you to cheat on RenGuard protected servers.
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Personaly I wouldn't trust someone that has Renguard to be 100% cheat free, but it's the only way to insure that the server is 90%+ cheat free.
There are dozens of public and 100's of privet cheats for renegade and renguard detects them easely. And i can easely make cheats(.ddb and w3d) that will not show up on a screen shot and will not show up on a damage test, but they will get spoted by renguard. And as soon as renguard 1.4 get's made I think that servers that run it wil stay 99.995% cheat free.
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| renguard hacked [message #150490] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 20:13 |
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csskiller
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Agreed
When history witnesses a great change, Razgriz reveals itself,
First as a dark demon,
As a demon it uses its power to reign death upon the land;
and then it dies.
However, after a period of slumber, Razgriz returns.
This time as a great hero...
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| renguard hacked [message #150501] |
Tue, 19 April 2005 22:17 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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There is no direct RenGuard-based connection between your RenGuard client and the server. All connections are made to the master servers on our end.
I'm the bawss.
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