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| Terri Shiavo [message #146454] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:22   |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Registered: November 2003
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Jeb Bush tried, yes that is true. But not hard enough. Saying he and or his brother can do no more is bullshit. You can't tell me he doesn't have more power than some judge in a small county. If he REALLy wanted her to live he'd risk his office and go get her instead of worring about votes or w/e is stopiing him from doing so.
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So you're in support of Jeb Bush declaring martial law in Florida?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146457] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:26 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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So you're in favor of Jeb Bush declaring martial law in Florida?
Do you even know what that means?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146458] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:32 |
Opalkilla
Messages: 262
Registered: September 2004
Location: USA
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What the fuck, seriously. Do you have to make fun of disabled people to feel good about yourself? Go into a corner and kindly die.
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146459] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:40 |
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Walrus
Messages: 382
Registered: February 2003
Location: Good old England
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She has never been given rehabilitation, (spelt wrong) You have no idea what condition she could be in and you can't say she that over the past 15 years she coudlnt' have possibly gained SOME function back if it would have been allowed. But the saint of a husband (*cough bullshit*) has ordered there be none. Yea he really cares about his wife doesn't he, and don't forget his mistriss either. yes after the things she's gone through now with the starvation she's probebly done for no matter what we do. It sucks, this whole situation sucks.
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I wont call her husband a monster. From what I have read he has not left her side, and has made sure that her care upuntil now has been good.
- this is what I have learned so far, but by no means a real fact, i could be wrong-
She has only has two bed sores in all this time. This is unheard of and remarkable. He could have whored him self to the media, but has not.
There have been pictures of her brain posted on the internet, and they show that Terri's brain is not damaged, it's wrecked, no cortex to speak of, allot of it has been replaced by fluid. You need your cerebral cortex to be you, without you are not a person.
Rehabilitation can only happen if the person can respond, speech and sound therapy only work on a person who is cognitive. I don't know if Terri has even been cognitive, so I cant rely comment. But I do know that without therapy a person will make little if any progress.
If i'm wrong about any of this, feel free to flame...
One Last Time
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146460] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:50 |
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Javaxcx
Messages: 1943
Registered: February 2003
Location: Canada, eh?
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There have been pictures of her brain posted on the internet, and they show that Terri's brain is not damaged, it's wrecked, no cortex to speak of, allot of it has been replaced by fluid. You need your cerebral cortex to be you, without you are not a person.
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Not necessarily true. We know where the body interacts with the consciousness and we know what factors may affect the consciousness, but no doctor in the world knows where the conscious IS. It is unfair to assume it is where we can grasp it, and judge Terri's life based on that. For all any of us know, she is still in that shell attempting to communicate but can't.
That does not mean she is dead, and it does not mean she isn't "there" anymore, if you know what I mean.
I also agree with you, somewhat. I don't think her husband is necessarily a monster. I think he is tired of caring and supporting her and not seeing any kind of improvement. He wants to let her go and move on (and already has, somewhat) as morbid as that sounds. However, I do believe that he should just allow her parents to continue to care for her until she finally does die.
Sniper Extraordinaire
Read the FUD Rules before you come in and make an ass of yourself.
All your base are belong to us.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146461] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:53 |
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glyde51
Messages: 1827
Registered: August 2004
Location: Winnipeg
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Maybe her husband just can't handle it anymore. All the media coverage and stuff, that's a lot of presssure.
No. Seriously. No.
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146463] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:57 |
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Dave Anderson
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Location: United States
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Sniper12345, you are a faggit for just posting this. This is not funny and whoever made this should burn in hell. Terry's case is no laughing matter, she deserves to be treated with respect and friendlyness. She does not deserve to be put down by some faggot making fun of her and sniper, you are no better for posting this. Faggit, burn in hell.
EDIT: What kind of life is it laying in a bed for 15 years not being able to do anything? She has been suffering in a bed for 15 years and her parents are being selfish.
David Anderson
Founder, Software Consultant
DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146465] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 16:06 |
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Walrus
Messages: 382
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Location: Good old England
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Not necessarily true. We know where the body interacts with the consciousness and we know what factors may affect the consciousness, but no doctor in the world knows where the conscious IS. It is unfair to assume it is where we can grasp it, and judge Terri's life based on that. For all any of us know, she is still in that shell attempting to communicate but can't
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I agree. There is no way of knowing what makes a person conscious. i was reading about stephen hawking. He has motor neurone disseise and can barley move or interact with the out side world. yet he is one of the smartest people on earth. Surly there are tests for activity of — brain waves, electrical activity — were they done on this woman?
I would hate to think of such an end. Dying and not being able to tell any one. But I would also hate to be kept alive with no chance of getting better.
Just thinking about this is depressing enough, but knowing that one day I might have to go threw it my self, that terrifies me. I think its time to update my will. I'm 21 and I have written 3 so far.
One Last Time
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146586] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 00:01 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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Well he's not doing it...
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Quote from IRC
<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
<[Digital]> ah fuck wrong window
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146617] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 04:27 |
Spoony_old
Messages: 1105
Registered: December 2004
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Well he's not doing it...
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You don't get smart with me.
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146822] |
Thu, 31 March 2005 04:04 |
Jzinsky
Messages: 339
Registered: June 2004
Location: Warrington
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Just thinking about this is depressing enough, but knowing that one day I might have to go threw it my self, that terrifies me. I think its time to update my will. I'm 21 and I have written 3 so far.
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Wow, that is bad.
No flashy signature..
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| Terri Shiavo [message #146913] |
Thu, 31 March 2005 15:45 |
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cheesesoda
Messages: 6507
Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan
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Well he's not doing it...
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You don't get smart with me.
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Why, because you can't afford to think?
whoa.
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