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Thu, 03 February 2005 07:38  |
R00k1e
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Registered: February 2005
Location: Colorado
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Hey guys…I’ve always been a big fan of C&C games and recently installed Renegade on my computer. I played through the game with relative ease and decided to play online… Wow. Very addictive gameplay to say the least. I’ve only played for the past few days and I’m already hooked.
To avoid becoming the dreaded “n00b� all good players loathe and bad players deny being, I decided to post on a forum and ask you pros a few “newb� questions:
--I’ve noticed, on several occasions, players (mostly snipers) performing erratic strafing motions to avoid damage. Good tactic. But this kind of back-and-forth strafing is at an insane pace, and occurs while they’re turning, running, etc. I could understand someone jamming on the left/right strafing keys, but what I see looks impossible. That, and they still get one-shot kills off while doing this. Is what I see some type of cheat, or just wicked reflexes and expensive equipment at home?
-- Also, these one-shot kills…I know high-powered rifles are just that—high powered, but some sniper taking me out at about 15 feet while we’re both strafing and jumping around like morons? Come on. Moves like that only come with bots last I saw. My reflexes aren’t that bad…are they?
-- Does WOL run/support any completely (Ren)guarded servers? Maybe some that people might just be playing on?
-- Is there a complete in-game command list online that I could look at; Namely the “~� / “F8� commands? I’m still learning most of the basics and I’d really like to nominate players, vote for map changes or…say…be able to reply to the blue one-on-one chat messages when they appear. Yeah yeah, laugh it up.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks for reading through this gibberish and letting me post here in the first place…
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| New to the scene... [message #135986] |
Thu, 03 February 2005 08:18  |
tooncy
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Registered: February 2004
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Welcome to the community. 
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--I’ve noticed, on several occasions, players (mostly snipers) performing erratic strafing motions to avoid damage. Good tactic. But this kind of back-and-forth strafing is at an insane pace, and occurs while they’re turning, running, etc. I could understand someone jamming on the left/right strafing keys, but what I see looks impossible. That, and they still get one-shot kills off while doing this. Is what I see some type of cheat, or just wicked reflexes and expensive equipment at home?
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They are probably lucky. Lag is a problem in renegade, and collision detection is done on the client side of the server if I'm not mistaken, so when they shoot you, it could look weird on your end, but it would be completly normal on theirs.
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-- Also, these one-shot kills…I know high-powered rifles are just that—high powered, but some sniper taking me out at about 15 feet while we’re both strafing and jumping around like morons? Come on. Moves like that only come with bots last I saw. My reflexes aren’t that bad…are they?
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A headshot with a high powered rifle will kill you in one shot. Again, usually they just get lucky.
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-- Does WOL run/support any completely (Ren)guarded servers? Maybe some that people might just be playing on?
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Yes it does. There are quite a few full Renguarded servers out there.
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-- Is there a complete in-game command list online that I could look at; Namely the “~� / “F8� commands? I’m still learning most of the basics and I’d really like to nominate players, vote for map changes or…say…be able to reply to the blue one-on-one chat messages when they appear. Yeah yeah, laugh it up.
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I'm pretty sure that someone put together a list of them. I think that if you open up the console and type help it will give you a basic list. As for nominations and donations, those can usually be done by typing the command into the F2 chat window.
To reply to the chat messages: Typing /r Insertmessagehere will send a message to the last person that paged you. If you wish to talk to somebody else, then use this format: /page playername message .
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| New to the scene... [message #135999] |
Thu, 03 February 2005 08:55 |
Weirdo
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Registered: March 2003
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--I’ve noticed, on several occasions, players (mostly snipers) performing erratic strafing motions to avoid damage. Good tactic. But this kind of back-and-forth strafing is at an insane pace, and occurs while they’re turning, running, etc. I could understand someone jamming on the left/right strafing keys, but what I see looks impossible. That, and they still get one-shot kills off while doing this. Is what I see some type of cheat, or just wicked reflexes and expensive equipment at home?
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I think this is mostly seen when the other player is zoomed in. It's a result of the network code. The person who is zoomed in doesn't actually notice it.
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Is there a complete in-game command list online that I could look at; Namely the “~� / “F8� commands? I’m still learning most of the basics and I’d really like to nominate players, vote for map changes or…say…be able to reply to the blue one-on-one chat messages when they appear. Yeah yeah, laugh it up.
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Most servers run an IRC gamebot. Everybot has it's own special commands, and not on every server you can Recommend players, or vote for kick or maps.
An addition to what tooncy said. You can use /page username message like he said. But if the player is actually in the same game server , you can also use simply /username message.. Note that username and message stanf ofcourse for the name and message.
And welcome to the community.
Size doesn't matter.
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| New to the scene... [message #136199] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 00:16 |
R00k1e
Messages: 3
Registered: February 2005
Location: Colorado
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Thanks for the help, fellas (ladies?). I'm grateful.
I'll see what I can do about those reflexes...
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| New to the scene... [message #136201] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 00:28 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Registered: February 2003
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The flickering with "snipers" (I use the term loosely as none have any real talent or skill) is because of networking code. The server thinks they're running, the client thinks they're walking. Scoped mode causes this. The result is a conflict and you see the flicker movement which is incredibly annoying and helps unskilled players shoot easily because they can't be hit very well... If at all.
This game is not realistic. If you want that, go play CS:S. It's a better game anyway. There is no accuracy penalty, nor is there any recoil. Jump, fall, run, walk, you will have the same accuracy no matter what you do. Yes, it's stupid.
WOL supports all servers.
Type F8 and type in "help" without the quotation marks. It will give you a list of commands, all of which are mostly useless with the exception of client_physics_optimization which improves framerates somewhat.
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| New to the scene... [message #136211] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 02:43 |
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liberator
Messages: 246
Registered: May 2003
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other's, like me, are jokes at sniping(but I'm getting better) my hit ratio is 1/15 most of the time
don't forget the "fps" console command, it puts a little informational line in the right corner that displays framerate, ping, and transfer rate.
Also, don't take ACK too seriously, he's a bit of a prick.
There was a time when people were impressed that I have the firepower to decimate a planet in under 10 minutes.
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| New to the scene... [message #136251] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 10:02 |
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liberator
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Registered: May 2003
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Oh, I forgot to mention something about Havoc/Sakura/Ramjets(sometimes you can pick one up from a weapon spawn, which some servers has as a mod).
In addition to killing basic(free) infantry with one shot, and advanced with 2. They're weapons are also highly effective against aircraft and light vehicles. Also, they out range the Mobile Artillery, which is stupid.
It's something of a sticky subject with some of us, because everybody recognizes that the Ramjet(hereafter refered to as the n00bjet or n00bcannon) is a over powered, hacked up weapon that is based on a weapon that the army deploys with 2/3 man teams(a 50cal anti-vehicle rifle) that must be fired from a prone or seated postion with the weapon firmly mounted to a bi/tri pod. One soldier can barely carry it, much less the 36 rounds of ammunition that comes with the Renegade version.
Also, there are a LOT of snipers in this community, far more than would ever be in a C&C battlefield even if you could build them, so try to stay of open unconfined spaces. I've made a request that at least the n00bjet be limited like the vehicles are. I've been in several games where a team(usually GDI), kills the Hand of Nod and the Airstrip, and then camps in their base while 9/10 of their team get ramjets to pad their score. It's really quite pathetic and borders on abuse.
There was a time when people were impressed that I have the firepower to decimate a planet in under 10 minutes.
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| New to the scene... [message #136302] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 15:09 |
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Pendullum
Messages: 255
Registered: September 2003
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Become a master of the V button ingame and you can become a very good sniper if you have good hand-eye co-ordination.
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(flaming is what homosexuals do)
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| New to the scene... [message #136304] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 15:12 |
icedog90
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Registered: April 2003
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Renegade is a good game overall, but the skill that is required is crap compared to CS:S.
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| New to the scene... [message #136344] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 21:10 |
greb
Messages: 95
Registered: November 2004
Location: Denver, CO
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In our clan server theres been a rise in newbies coming in and getting owned. This leads them to start accusing everyone and getting very mad and pissing people off. So just to warn you, theres some people in Ren that are very good at sniping and alot of cheaters that wish they could snipe. If you think they might be cheating dont start accusing people, page a mod ingame and stay calm because if you get riled up, im sure theyll kick you as well. Plus, newbies accusing everyone of cheating is annoying as hell.
Welcome to Renegade.
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