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Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120280] Thu, 14 October 2004 22:49 Go to next message
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http://www.johntitor.com/

If you read that website, all of it, you might come to the chilling realization that the guy who wrote all of those quotes was really from the future, and did see events on his world line appear in the way he's telling them.

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There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.


I doubt the nuclear strike would happen. The civil war, however, seems to be highly likely considering the way politics are unfolding today.

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I believe that hardship and challenge develop character and community. My first experience with war came when I joined a shotgun infantry unit at the age of thirteen. In the 4 years I served as a "rebel", I watched hundreds of people get shot, burn and bleed to death. I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville. I know the pain and regret of not acting soon enough to enjoy a relationship as a loved one dies of brain cancer from a war that gained nothing.

How can you possibly criticize me for any conflict that comes to you? I watch every day what you are doing as a society. While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the "Universal Law" you subscribe to?

Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.


I just find an odd resemblance between his words and my own. Maybe that's just me though.

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Why are you so interested in the Constitution?

After the war, the United States had split into five separate regions based on the various factors and military objectives they each had. There was a great deal of anger directed toward the Federal government and a revival of states rights was becoming paramount. However, in their attempt to create an economic form of government, the political and military leaders at the time decided to hold one last Constitutional Congress in order to present a psychological cohesion from the old system.

During this Congress, the leaders discovered and decided that coming up with a new and better form of government was nearly impossible. The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was the ignorance of the people that lived under it.


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I disapprove of war because I think it's immoral. What do you think?

I disapprove of murder. Man as a species is incapable of changing his nature through will alone and war is a tool of biology. The ability for war sleeps in each one of us and we must decide what we will do before the beast awakens. As for morality, again I point to the "universal" balance of good and evil. For every worldline where there is peace, there is a worldline that has destroyed itself.


(4) I'm glad to see it's so easy for to dismiss the Middle East. Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will be a "no arrmer" and a "no legger".


The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.


Bullshit or not, this guy has a lot of good opinions on how this nation is going right now.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120282] Thu, 14 October 2004 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse.

I don't think so. It's already October and there have been no "Waco type" events. I looked through a nice chunk of this site previously and I really can't agree with or believe any of this. I'll believe it when I see it.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120283] Thu, 14 October 2004 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's still 2004, and who's to say this won't happen if John Kerry is elected? Or if Bush changes his policies completely due to terrorist attacks that destroy New York City with a nuclear device, causing him to begin sending law enforcement at our own citizens for undue searches?
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120284] Thu, 14 October 2004 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, that could be possible, but if it were to occurr then it would be the second time that part of the U.S. Constitution would be violated. You cannot use military technology against American citizens. They might stick to that, but they might not if a terror attack occurrs on a scale that large.

But the parts about the "American Federal Empire" and the U.S. splitting into 5 seperate regions is too far fetched for me to agree with. This civial war he talks about would have to be an almost full scale war for the U.S. to split up that badly.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120285] Thu, 14 October 2004 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They split up into different segments in the time around 2008 I believe.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120290] Fri, 15 October 2004 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I saw this a long time ago. (Notice how he says that the war will start in 2004, then he says 2005)

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Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120298] Fri, 15 October 2004 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He says the roots of the civil war begin in 2004. It turns into a civil war in 2005.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120313] Fri, 15 October 2004 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005.

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The civil war in the United States will start in 2004.

....

This guy doesn't sound very credible to me.


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Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120314] Fri, 15 October 2004 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005.

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The civil war in the United States will start in 2004.

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This guy doesn't sound very credible to me.

Maybe his memory isn't that good anymore Razz

I had also seen this site several months ago and decided to just wait for the civil war..
Anyways, I guess time will tell if this is just a bunch of BS or not.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120333] Fri, 15 October 2004 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<------is very sceptical

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Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120336] Fri, 15 October 2004 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can die in your civil war then I hope you are right. Razz

And you claim you are an intelligent person... You're stupid !
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120337] Fri, 15 October 2004 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No matter how convincing this guy may be, I believe in the theory of relativity.

I don't believe that time travel is possible, and therefore I label this guy as one of Miss Cleo's psychic friends. Smile


Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120368] Fri, 15 October 2004 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you read the site he explains that it was a typing error.

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John says the civil war leads to the world war in 2015. The civil war lasts for ten years?


It's 2004. I apologize for a missed key (very observant - we all need good critics). Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict. The first U.S. civil war lasted 4 years and the English civil war lasted 6. How long is too long?


http://www.johntitor.com/JohnsWorld.htm

That explains why what he wrote may not happen at all.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120375] Fri, 15 October 2004 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6

If you can die in your civil war then I hope you are right. Razz

And you claim you are an intelligent person... You're stupid !


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Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120376] Fri, 15 October 2004 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'm betting it's BS, but some of his opinions are pretty good.

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What a load of bullshit. How can anyone believe this?
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120384] Fri, 15 October 2004 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well im not saying this is true but have u people heard about the parallel universes and the apocalypse?
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120388] Fri, 15 October 2004 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Care to prove how it's a load of bullshit? Saying something like that doesn't prove whether or not you're correct.
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120397] Fri, 15 October 2004 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just wait and see. If this guy don't lie, then we can hope a world without mr. holmes soon. lol
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120415] Fri, 15 October 2004 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it's pathetically sad that you would wish death on anyone. Do all Germans have that kind of mindset?
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120416] Fri, 15 October 2004 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He's not even German.

Anyway, since you're all coming out with your time travel stories. I'm also from the future. I come from year 3,012. I came in a magic school bus and have brought many gifts to help you simple folks.


cause = time
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120419] Fri, 15 October 2004 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's nowhere near as complicated or as scientifically plausible as what this guy has said. Did any of you bother to read the website?
Theories of Time Travel and the Future [message #120422] Fri, 15 October 2004 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's an old website that many of us have already seen before. I've read through it a few times.

However, I'm still skeptical until some event/someone proves otherwise.


cause = time
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Anyway, since you're all coming out with your time travel stories. I'm also from the future. I come from year 3,012. I came in a magic school bus and have brought many gifts to help you simple folks.


Then fork 'em over, nice and easy...no funny stuff. :twisted:


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I PRESENT TO YOU: The automatic SPOON.

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