| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108396] |
Mon, 16 August 2004 20:18  |
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NeoX
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Registered: April 2003
Location: Canada, Ontario, Acton
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Well yes the program made it out but what a second all renguard servers are empty! or have less then 10 players. Was renguard a failure I think so not because of the programers but becuase of the stupid community not being able to download a small application. You cant play a decent game of renegade anymore without cheaters while you are running renguard and you know that you are clean but while others run free and cheat. Server owners refuse to use the renguard system due to the fact of empty servers. Well i think that is bullshit and they all are fucktards the n00bstories servers are pretty much empty... is this a sign that renegade is now coooked to its prime? Or is there still a chance please someone prove me wrong because this is killing me.
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108415] |
Mon, 16 August 2004 22:32  |
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mac
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Registered: February 2003
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One of the servers I am hosting is almost full 24/7 (24 slots) with RenGuard enforced. It's not exactly a failure. Our community has accepted RenGuard and it runs just fine for me. I look forward to CP1.
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danpaul88: buggy bugs brenbot because buggy befriends brainlessness
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108418] |
Mon, 16 August 2004 23:05 |
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Crimson
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Using RenGuard without requiring every player to use it is pretty much a waste of time... but the bigger problem is providers costs going down, now servers can be run by any idiot with a hundred bucks a month. There are more servers than players, and it's only natural that many players will choose the path of least resistance and play on non-RG servers.
However, there are several successful servers. Your job as a player is to insist on RenGuard on your favorite server. Also, look at the list I added at the top of the MOTD for RenGuard. It will list the top 5 WOL and/or GSA servers with RenGuard'ed players in them so you know where the action is. Make you own personal effort to try out a different server if your favorite refuses to RenGuard themselves. There are many, many server communities out there where you can get a good game in, and playing without cheaters, like back in the good old days, is a great thing.
I'm the bawss.
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108436] |
Tue, 17 August 2004 02:15 |
ohnou812
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Registered: March 2003
Location: Western NY
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Even though it's only 8 player Ohnouserv is a full Renguard server and it's always full during peak times of the day. We have gained new players by educating the community about Renguard and have helped people download and set it up. There is no way its a failure, If Renguard wasn't developed when it was. This community may have possibly been dead by now or it numbers would definitely be dwindling down! I have talked to several players who have returned to this community because of the presence of Renguard! Renguard A Failure?...I Think Not!
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108441] |
Tue, 17 August 2004 03:14 |
egg098
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Registered: August 2003
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I must say that from a moderator's point of view, moderating RenGuard servers is a lot easier than non-RenGuard servers, purely because of it! You know that no one is cheating, so you only have to worry about walljumpers/thieves etc.
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108520] |
Tue, 17 August 2004 13:02 |
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All clan games are now renguarded so atleast it wasnt a failure over at CW.
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Thats true, and also, RenGuard is not a failure, it works doesnt it, its the the lack of people that dont feal like downloading it that is a failure.
(+GWBoT) @NotKarmai: **** this man
(+GWBoT) @NotKarmai: join a server we have mod in
TuNa says:
you will probably pet your pillow to death
i have a pet TD
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108526] |
Tue, 17 August 2004 13:28 |
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Dan
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Registered: August 2003
Location: UK
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I think the main problem renguard had was the rocky start with crashes/not detecting cheats etc. But the current version is much more stable.
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108540] |
Tue, 17 August 2004 14:41 |
flyingfox
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Registered: February 2003
Location: scotland, uk
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But the question here is the amount of larger servers running proper renguard. ohnouserv and egg's c&r server are just 8 players big. For c&r that's great but I get extremely bored in 8 player "aow"s. Renegade multiplay was designed for 7 players on each team at the least. To me an 8 player running a full all out war with basekill is about as fun as getting hit over the head with a hammer.
I notice a lot of you are saying "renguard a failure? no way!" but haven't really provided much if any evidence to that. I just checked the top 5 listings on renguard and, fair enough - there're a couple wol servers with decent amounts of players.
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Top 5 Servers for GameSpy and Westwood Online
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The Pits (renmaps.com) 20/40
[RG]www.WarriorNation.net [... 17/28
[RG]FANMAPS.NET FanMaps 11/32
[RG]FANMAPS.NET Mission Maps 11/20
[DS] Dark Angels - AOW 9/32
(Player counts shown are RenGuard-verified players. Actual counts may vary.)
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But how many of those 5 are running full renguard (meaning, without renguard you can't join)? I know the pits doesn't, nor dark angels. I don't like fanmaps.net, much less mission maps. Warriornation wasn't even listed on wol and the rest of them are mediocre sized at best because there won't be any more than 9 players in them.
when was the last time you played in a large server running proper renguard? Ages ago, probably. most of us don't double click the renegade icon to wait for that "one in a blue moon" game, we just join any server with enough players in it. There have been a good few on a noobstories serv but renguard has been out since april and a few games in 4 months doesn't really cut it. and you could be waiting, what...10 minutes for someone to join you? the chance of a 2 player game going large is little to none. Sorry but most of the community doesn't have the patience or the will to bother doing that just so they can guarantee a 'cheat free' game, and I think it's something we'll have to live up to for good.
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108647] |
Wed, 18 August 2004 05:30 |
Alkaline
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Registered: November 2003
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This game is not worth having its own anticheat system becuase of all the other crap that outs thier like server exploits.
Ya you kick/ban somone, they crash your server how nice is that :rolleyes:
screw it mang, its not worth it anymore...
http://www.UNRules.com
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108650] |
Wed, 18 August 2004 05:56 |
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This game is not worth having its own anticheat system becuase of all the other crap that outs thier like server exploits.
Ya you kick/ban somone, they crash your server how nice is that :rolleyes:
screw it mang, its not worth it anymore...
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I don't take threats and punks like that lightly. I'd rather have more downtime than uptime rather than have to let a cheater stay in my server because he holds all of the cards. I'm putting RG on my server when I get it up.
Libertarian Party | The King's Throne | The Soda Shop
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| Is Renguard a failure? [message #108876] |
Thu, 19 August 2004 04:51 |
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| Blazer |
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This game is not worth having its own anticheat system becuase of all the other crap that outs thier like server exploits.
Ya you kick/ban somone, they crash your server how nice is that :rolleyes:
screw it mang, its not worth it anymore...
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Then you are promoting terrorism by letting them get their way. I would rather my server be down for a week of DDOS than to let cheaters run rampant ruining everyones game.
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Blazer, my line of thinking EXACTLY.
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I don't take threats and punks like that lightly. I'd rather have more downtime than uptime rather than have to let a cheater stay in my server because he holds all of the cards. I'm putting RG on my server when I get it up.
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